Jesus Told Them So?

The Spiritual Counseling Network who is responsible for the "Find Zahra Baker Fund" claims to also be providing Christian Counseling -in contrast to what  defines North Carolina's interpretation of pastoral counseling services.  Tim Curtis fancies himself a Doctor, however, his degree is WORTHLESS in the greater scheme of things.  He had to buy his degree from an online church, and he did so in an effort to promote his business, and to enhance his credentials so as to hold himself out as something that he is not.   Mr. Curtis' willingness to proffer fake credentials and hold himself out as a "Doctor of Divinity" is not only a testament to his blatant dishonesty, but a shining example of his overall morals and character.


Diploma mills are everywhere, and Mr. Curtis and his associates were "ordained" online through the Universal Church of Life Ministries.  The fact of the matter is this, Spiritual Counseling Network, obtained false  credentials in an effort to make themselves and their new business seem legitimate. By using the fake credentials and pastoral ordinations, they used this social standing to advertise  pastoral counseling which in turn would cause potential clients to rely on the expertise and perceived success behind the title of DOCTOR and reverend.  Therefore, new clients would be more likely to purchase their counseling services which they offered at a discounted price as evidenced by their website.  This deception is called FRAUD.  Color it any way you want to - it is a deceptive practice and deception is fraud.  Holding oneself out as a counselor infers that one has successfully reached a level of professional training and has graduated an accredited college or university to provide counseling.  An experienced counselor is not someone who worked in a mental health facility as an RA. The following is from their site that they have now pulled.  Why does a pastor accept insurance?

We do not accept any insurance.  We strive to make our rates affordable - in most cases about the same as you would typically pay for an insurance co-pay.
For those unable to meet the full cost of counseling, a fee adjustment can be made in order to make services available to almost everyone. The primary considerations for using the sliding fee are income level and special circumstances. Many churches also provide financial assistance to make these services a reality for their members. Clients are encouraged to discuss financial arrangements confidentially with their Counselor.  Source


Do you want to become a DD?  Click here.  The Universal Church of Life Ministries can hook you up for $32.99.

There are two other registered pastoral counseling centers in Hickory.  One has 9 Licensed Professional Counselors, 1 Psychologist, and 2 Licensed Clinical Social Workers.  Spiritual Counseling Network has THREE UNEDUCATED LOSERS providing counseling in contrast to what the North Carolina statute states about pastoral counseling.  It's okay.  I don't have to go into the statutes much. I do believe those dill holes are going to be hearing about their activities soon enough. 


They are also still panhandling for monies in the name of Zahra Baker. Anyone who donates to this fund, please know that your donation is not tax deductible, however, since you donated you can demand a FULL ACCOUNTING of how these monies are being distributed.  We will be requesting a full reporting at year's end from the IRS.
Welcome Friends!
The Zahra Baker Fund is a non-profit project created as a result of the disappearance of Zahra Claire Baker. The Fund exists to assist in finding Zahra, provide access to counseling services to those impacted by the case, to give Zahra a rightful funeral (in the event of her death) and to support organizations that fight child abuse and exploitation. To learn more about the Fund and how you can help, click here.
I would also like to challenge the three pretend Reverends, Timothy Curtis, Uziel Medina and Brandon Greeson to prove just what they have done to "assist in finding Zahra".  I am fairly certain that she was NOT at the Granite Falls Walmart shopping when they were out front panhandling donations, nor was she surfing online while they were begging for donations on Facebook to reach their $10,000 goal.  With regard to counseling, what I have observed from the behavior that has been exhibited over the last few days from some of the members of Spiritual Counseling Network aka Hickory Ridge Church, one or all of them might need some counseling themselves.

Samanthainhky aka Samantha Miller who claimed to be from Hickory, North Carolina and a fourth year law student turned out to be a fraud.  She was a persona obviously used by one of the dweebs from to obtain information from people about themselves and to then use that information to harass and intimidate them.  Samantha (I believe you are a HE) was contacting people on Facebook and asking for information about what they knew about Timothy Curtis, Uziel Medina and Brandon Greeson.  Samantha Miller claimed to have a friend who was working for the District Attorney's office, and that they were building a case against Spiritual Counseling Network.

Miller showed up at a Facebook group that was created to out the Find Zahra Baker Fund and get word out about the shady dealings of the operation.  Miller asked that any information  anyone had should be funneled through HIM at samanthainhky@gmail.com.  Incidentally, when it was requested by the admins at the Facebook group advocating against the Spiritual Counseling NUTwork and their fake charity that any and all information about the men involved be sent directly to the DA's office, Samantha Miller basically flipped out and made an odd post "Axis II - Narcissistic Personality Disorder".  She then deleted all of HIS posts and left the group -- not before the admins screen captured all of the posts.  It is believed that Miller was more than likely one of the idiots trying to plant seeds of doubt. Miller even argued that the Spiritual Counseling Network could provide "pastoral counseling" on the basis that the church was accepting money to charge for the room that was used in response to this portion of the NC statute about pastoral counseling

Article 26.

Fee-Based Practicing Pastoral Counselors.

§ 90-380. Title.
This Article shall be known as the "Fee-Based Practicing Pastoral Counselor Certification
Act." (1991, c. 670.)

§ 90-382. Definitions.
The following definitions apply in this Article:
(1)
Accredited educational institution. – A college, university, or theological seminary chartered by the State and accredited by the appropriate regional association of colleges and secondary schools or by the appropriate association of theological schools and seminaries.

§ 90-391. Prohibited acts.
No person shall represent himself to be a certified fee-based practicing pastoral counselor or a certified fee-based pastoral counseling associate, or engage in or offer to engage in the practice of certified fee-based pastoral counseling, without a valid certificate issued under this Article. No person shall use these titles or descriptions, or any of their derivatives, in a manner
that implies the person is certified under this Article. No called or elected pastor during his active full-time pastorate shall practice as a certified fee-based pastoral counselor even if certified under this Article. (1991, c. 670.)

samanthainhky
I totally disagree, and so does the State licensing board, with your interpretation. All they have to say is the "fee" is for the cost of using the room. I'm sure they have wiggled their way around it. I noticed today, the state approved their exemption for a charitable license. Go to www.sosnc.com and click on CHARITABLE LICENSING and search for "Spiritual Counseling." You can view all of the documents there. The state recognizes them as a church.
I am pretty sure that this photo of "Samantha" was stolen somewhere, and there is no real Samantha - note she has only been on blogger since October, 2010.  How convenient.  There is a comment on the blog from "Samantha" claiming to be working for her friend who works for the DA, and I am posting a screenshot since Brandon/Samantha/Tim/Whoozefatt likes to delete.  I tried to call the DA all day today but assume because of the weather the phones were not working.



 Standing on the backs of dead and missing children for profit is DESPICABLE and we will not stand by quietly while pigs like these three make money using Zahra's image and name.  We encourage everyone to report them to Attorney General's office.  Perhaps with enough complaints they will look into them.  The squeaky wheel gets oil.

23 comments to Jesus Told Them So?

  • Anonymous

    In the south, this is what we call hogwash. Sandi, have you ever heard of separation of church and state? The state cannot tell the church what their credentials must look like. Likewise, having a doctorate of divinity does NOT give you ordination for ministry. Ordination is granted by the religious entity (church, mosque, temple, synagogue, etc). If their "church" ordained them, they can call themselves "Reverend" - that is the bottom line.

    Furthermore, why are you - Sandi - investing so much time in going after a group of people you know little about (other than what people have said, after those same people admitted they were wrong). You do not even live in North Carolina. How shameful.

    Don't you have anything better to do? I wonder how long it will take you to remove this comment? Probably before the next person can come into your website and you can capture their information using Statcounter, huh?

    Have you told everyone that comes to your blog that you are capturing a great detail of information about them? The same thing you had issue with this Spiritual Counseling group doing. If it is wrong for them, what makes it right for you? Hypocrite!

  • Anonymous

    Brandon, you are an ignorant ass. Don't you have a statcounter you hypocritical fat ass. Your church? What denomination are you, Brandon? Cocksacostal?

  • cabaret guy

    Hey dummie. I think this article pointed out the fake degree was being used specifically to hold yourselves out to look as though you were credentialed and not a bunch of dipshits like you are.

  • Anon, go away. WHY is she "collecting information" when she doesn't live there? I don't know, why do ANY crime bloggers "collect information" (some assholes collect money...hmmmm...who could THAT be, for children they've never met.)

    Sandi, I think you should apply for the "Dr (bwahahah) of Divinity Certificate (asshats can't even spell out "Doctor?") Then you, too, can be a DoctorATE of Divinity. It would be worth it to see the look on these morons faces.

  • Sandi? You really are reaching aren't you? There are several contributers here. Can you prove this allegation, since you are all about the proof? I'll be sure to ask the group about the call to the DA's office though. Asswipe.

  • I guess it's safe to say that "reading comprehension" isn't one of Anon's strong points. LMAO

  • Anonymous

    Anon, obviously you know nothing about Statcounter. All it shows is IP address and State to which the person came from and from that, you gain nothing. No names, No addresses etc. Nothing different than any other website gets. Unlike your site where you beg people to donate and use a dead child as your bait, you not only grab peoples names and addresses but also their credit card numbers. Big difference!

    BTW "Samantha" *cough* I mean Anon, Your ass is showing!

  • Anonymous

    Hey, I'll be anonymous2.... I would like to ask a certain freak of nature ( IMO) why they be so busy changing everything on the website? I have it on good authoritI that the popo begain investigating this as SOON as they opened their big mouths for ya'll to come one down to the Wallieworld in Granite Falls. Why ya'll be changin shit if u be so legit? How about that meeting that was so "productive" with the popo? Where is the "more information" you promised to release? You can run but you can't hide cause everyone has hard copies of every single thing you F@faces have ever posted, written, printed, promised or threatend. It has all been turned over to many sources. So where is that 627.00? The cops don't need it, the reward fund doesn't need it, the family is here & they don't need it.......... hey, what day is your rent due? A little digging needs to be done to see how you got the money to open your "business." How do you pay the rent on it? WHO pays you? Dig the shit hole bigger bigbubba and bubba jr. Most of the time folks are told "don't bend over to pick up the soap" when they go to jail. In your case, please do.

  • Curtis said SCN wants to use funds the organization collects to support law enforcement efforts, that may include offering a reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible for Zahra’s disappearance and/or homicide.
    ****************************************

    NOT ONCE HAVE THEY MADE A PLEA FOR INFORMATION LEADING TO THE ARREST OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS CHILD'S HOMICIDE.

  • double deuce

    I hope Samantha's ass isn't showing. ECLIPSE!

  • Anonymous

    Hey.. Anon ... you paid for your diploma... (I know a few people who could have photoshopped a diploma free for ya and saved the 32.99) (hey how did you panhandle the gelt to start up your "business") and it would have the same validity as the piece of paper and plastic identification card you purchased. NONE AT ALL when counted in REAL LIFE. You have no true credentials of any kind (unless having a GED is a high honor) other than the ability to double speak and rattle a profit jar (oh I mean donation scam I mean can) excuse my stutter while I type.. and confisicuate the situation by throwing in a bible verse or a hallelujah or two. I feel you, Anon have no social boundaries, as evidenced by your trying to raise money on the aweful fate of a dead child. If you moved your fat asses once in a while away from your computers or donation stints and stopped harassing people and got a real job maybe you might then become part of the true Christian WORK ethic.

  • Anonymous

    When you going to offer a reward... once found??? Then what are you going to do with the monies.....???? Pay rent... or buy more food..... or maybe a new diploma from the mill? Hey what about that 5,000 raffle..... I'd love to know the details on that. When's the drawing. How long you been grifting oh I mean collecting on it?

  • Anonymous

    That raffle has been going since August. How is that possible? How long will it run? Forever? What are the statutes on raffles, fattie?

  • Anonymous

    He and Patty have to confer so they can be Fatty & Patty. Look it up in the Bible... isn't one of the 10 Commandments... Thou shall NOT steal?

  • Anonymous

    No that's not in their deliverance bible. it's thou shalt not squeal.

  • Anonymous

    "And they shall know you are my disciples by your love" ~Jesus

    Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Some of you have some pretty dirty mouths and it is only evident of the condition of your heart. Repent and turn to Jesus before it is too late.

  • Anonymous

    When one wants to confusicate the situation .. good thinking Anon quote the bible.. get that cross reference handy!!! Nice try. REV.oh I think I'll just call ya Mr. GED because that's the only thing legitimate unless you cheated on passing that. Can you cheat on a GED... I'm sure you can cheat on everything especially when no self-ethics are involved.

    I also hate fake prosthletizers who believe in the mighty dollar and throw the name of one that some people perceive to be God in vain. Just wait till the final accounting is taken.... Don't think you're going to heaven (if there is one) just think this is gonna be one of your sins if there is a Hell.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous - ironically, that Pharisees and Sadusees told that same thing to Jesus Christ when he came to the earth. He was a liar, a fraud and they plotted a way to get him put in jail and to serve him the ultimate sentence. Jesus said not to be surprised when the world hates you, because they hated him first. You brood of vipers are only being an encouragement to Brandon, Tim & Uziel. Don't you realize it is an honor to be persecuted for Christ's sake. Satan only attacks the work of God when you are doing something right.

    Sandi Smith (her alias of course), Sharon Sigmon (aka Ashlyn Masters), Laurie Powell (aka lele1953) and Boyce Lee Smith (aka usaguy) can all flag their vile tongues. They can violate the law by releasing information that they know they are not allowed to release. They can bring up the past and try to use it to discredit and undermine the work that God is doing. But it is only going to bring a heaping pile of hot coals on their heads.

    I have told Brandon (my friend): "When the devil (and his minions) remind you of your past, remind him of his future." (Mill on that for a while, you brood of vipers)

  • What's the matter fat ass? Getting a little scared? Don't like the truth being told about you? The only future you have is back in the cell you came from.

  • KMA

    Hey Fatty1 and Fatty2, you should know by now that we won't be intimated or scared by you, or anyone. Your tactics don't work here. They don't exactly work for you either, as evidenced by your FaceBook pages and Websites being taken down. Well, boys, we have only just begun.

    You really ought to try something honest for a change.

  • Anonymous

    Samantha Miller October 29 at 12:10am Report
    Ashlyn,
    I am back in the area for the weekend and would like to meet with you to share information and see if we can take these guys down. I have received several emails from folks saying that I am connected with Greeson & Curtis. This is not true.

    I am willing to meet with you in public and share with you everything that I have found. I have hundreds of of pages of documents, photos and have just got some audio recordings today of some phone conversations between an unnamed individual and Curtis - talking about someone being mistreated at CVBH.

    If you are interested in meeting, in public, please let me know. I want you to know that I am not with them and that I am totally serious about taking these guys down. I think our efforts could be mutually beneficial.

    Please contact me - samanthanhky@gmail.com

  • Anonymous

    If you have legitimate information and truly stand on the side of seeking justice on those who defraud the name, memory and take advantage of tragic situations and who profit from kind hearted, emotionally sensitive people than go to the Hickory County Sherriff's office and file a complaint which in turn will go to the district attornies office of Catawba County. Otherwise shut up Brandon. Put your info where your mouth is.... Prove you, yourself are legit.. Samantha as well as Ashlyn.

  • URBusted

    This info needs to go through the Hickory Police Department, and that directive came straight from the Catawba County District Attorney's Office. There is NO Samantha Miller working for the DA's office. Samantha Miller is no doubt a persona made up by one of the criminals profiting off of the death of this child who was trying to stay one step ahead of LE by getting info.

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